1 00:00:01,466 --> 00:00:06,546 Scott, what led you down a different road after STS-118 to begin training for a ride 2 00:00:06,546 --> 00:00:11,706 to the space station in a Soyuz vehicle and training to become a space station Commander, 3 00:00:12,416 --> 00:00:17,226 and for Mark, why did you remain on a shuttle path rather than follow 4 00:00:17,226 --> 00:00:20,566 in your brother's footsteps to go for Soyuz and Russian training? 5 00:00:21,126 --> 00:00:27,236 Scott - My, you know, after STS-103 who, one of the crew members on 103 was Mike Foale 6 00:00:27,236 --> 00:00:32,506 who was also at the time, you know, doing double duties as a, you know, 7 00:00:32,506 --> 00:00:37,156 Associate Center Director, I think was his title, and, you know, 8 00:00:37,156 --> 00:00:40,146 he thought I would be a good person to be the, 9 00:00:40,146 --> 00:00:42,516 what's called the Director of Operations in Star City. 10 00:00:43,146 --> 00:00:49,196 So, you know, we talked about that and I decided that maybe, you know, 11 00:00:49,196 --> 00:00:52,436 that'd be a good experience, never, never intending to, 12 00:00:52,546 --> 00:00:57,466 to get on this space station track as soon as I, I did. 13 00:00:57,996 --> 00:01:01,506 You know, I thought my career would be flying a couple shuttle flights as a pilot 14 00:01:01,506 --> 00:01:05,606 and then a couple as the, the shuttle Commander and then later flying, 15 00:01:05,606 --> 00:01:07,366 maybe flying a long duration flight. 16 00:01:07,396 --> 00:01:12,386 But then, you know, after I was the DOR, Director of Operations in Star City for, 17 00:01:12,386 --> 00:01:17,226 I don't know, about nine months, soon after I got back I thought I was going to, you know, 18 00:01:17,556 --> 00:01:22,256 get assigned as a, a pilot again but for whatever reason the Chief 19 00:01:22,256 --> 00:01:29,906 of the Astronaut Office decided to ask me to be a backup, for Expedition 5 and the plan was 20 00:01:30,056 --> 00:01:36,886 for me not to fly as a prime but just be the backup and, he said he would then assign me 21 00:01:36,886 --> 00:01:41,006 as the Commander of a, of a shuttle flight and then the Commander of the space station. 22 00:01:41,496 --> 00:01:47,886 Actually wound up, you know, being true, you know, what, he said was the, the plan for me, 23 00:01:48,366 --> 00:01:53,116 but it just, because of the Columbia accident obviously took much longer, 24 00:01:53,566 --> 00:01:58,366 but it wasn't really something I was particularly interested in at the time. 25 00:01:58,366 --> 00:02:03,236 I would have rather flown the two pilot flights and two commander flights but being just the, 26 00:02:03,576 --> 00:02:08,766 you know, military type of guy I am I couldn't say no and I said, "Well, you know, 27 00:02:08,766 --> 00:02:12,846 if that's what you want me to do, you know, that's, that's what I'll do." 28 00:02:13,646 --> 00:02:16,436 Mark - So, Rob, you ask that question like we, we have a lot of control 29 00:02:16,436 --> 00:02:17,896 over this and we actually really don't. 30 00:02:17,896 --> 00:02:22,156 I mean, it's not you, you go into the office and you say, "Hey, I want to this flight 31 00:02:22,156 --> 00:02:23,176 and then I want to be on this one." 32 00:02:23,176 --> 00:02:28,556 It's really, you know, the, the, the Chief of the Astronaut Office, Peggy Whitson now, I mean, 33 00:02:28,556 --> 00:02:35,756 she makes the decisions of, you know, who is on which flight and it's, to a large extent it's, 34 00:02:35,916 --> 00:02:37,896 it's really out, out of, out of your control. 35 00:02:37,956 --> 00:02:42,186 You know, my case, I've been fortunate enough to fly, you know, three shuttle flights so far 36 00:02:42,896 --> 00:02:46,906 and this flight which I think'll wind up being the last flight of space shuttle Endeavour 37 00:02:47,036 --> 00:02:52,326 and it's been a, you know, certainly a great opportunity and a privilege to get to do that. 38 00:02:53,626 --> 00:02:56,796 Scott, how different is it going to be when you strap 39 00:02:56,796 --> 00:03:03,446 into a Soyuz vehicle knowing you're basically a passenger in the right seat heading uphill 40 00:03:04,106 --> 00:03:07,096 with your knees up in your throat, very tight capsule, 41 00:03:07,096 --> 00:03:10,176 Mercury-style basically, Gemini maybe at, at the most? 42 00:03:10,606 --> 00:03:12,616 What do you think that's going to be like in contrast? 43 00:03:12,816 --> 00:03:17,606 Scott - Well, I'll certainly have a lot less to do than, you know, during that time in the, 44 00:03:17,856 --> 00:03:23,226 in the Soyuz than on a, on a shuttle ascent or entry for that matter. 45 00:03:24,506 --> 00:03:29,556 You know, as the Flight Engineer Number 2 you're sort of, you know, a passenger. 46 00:03:29,556 --> 00:03:32,326 You do have some responsibilities but you're, you know, 47 00:03:32,986 --> 00:03:37,266 it's kind of like being somewhere between, you know, Mission Specialist Number 1 on the shuttle 48 00:03:37,266 --> 00:03:41,436 and sitting on the mid-deck, your role. 49 00:03:43,556 --> 00:03:45,996 So, you know, in, in that regard it will be different. 50 00:03:45,996 --> 00:03:50,066 It's kind of neat that it's, you know, a rocket like a, you know, like a traditional rocket, 51 00:03:50,916 --> 00:03:57,716 so it'll be good to have that, that experience especially as we move, you know, move on to a, 52 00:03:57,956 --> 00:04:00,966 you know, a new vehicle after, after the space shuttle program. 53 00:04:02,556 --> 00:04:04,756 Mark, you're going to be traveling to the Baikonur Cosmodrome 54 00:04:04,756 --> 00:04:06,676 in Kazakhstan to watch your brother's launch. 55 00:04:06,886 --> 00:04:08,386 What do you think that's going to be like for you? 56 00:04:08,576 --> 00:04:12,866 Mark - Well, I've been to Russia once and it was a long time so I'm lookin' forward to that. 57 00:04:12,866 --> 00:04:15,446 I'm actually taking Russian classes right now to see 58 00:04:15,446 --> 00:04:17,516 if I can get a little bit of Russian language... 59 00:04:17,516 --> 00:04:18,376 Scott - I thought you quit? 60 00:04:18,376 --> 00:04:19,276 Mark - ability. 61 00:04:19,356 --> 00:04:19,826 I kind of quit. 62 00:04:20,106 --> 00:04:26,746 I quit last week but, you know, I was, I, I did, I did a couple months. 63 00:04:26,946 --> 00:04:33,906 You know, for me it's really a great opportunity to not only see, you know, another space launch 64 00:04:33,906 --> 00:04:38,936 with people on board but to see my brother climbing into the Soyuz and, 65 00:04:38,936 --> 00:04:40,676 you know, launching from another country. 66 00:04:40,676 --> 00:04:42,326 I mean, that's, it's going to be amazing. 67 00:04:42,446 --> 00:04:47,826 I think at least one of my parents are going to be there, one of our parents, a lot of friends, 68 00:04:48,176 --> 00:04:51,986 some of the family members so it's really something I'm really looking forward to. 69 00:04:54,376 --> 00:04:59,696 And for you, Scott, knowing that your brother's there, not necessarily next to you but certainly 70 00:05:00,386 --> 00:05:04,396 in spirit, how's that going to be from a support standpoint mentally for you? 71 00:05:04,626 --> 00:05:08,926 Scott - Oh, it'll be great and, you know, I'll have friends and other family members there. 72 00:05:08,926 --> 00:05:10,606 He's going to be one of the family escorts. 73 00:05:11,106 --> 00:05:14,206 Hopefully at least one of my kids'll be there and, 74 00:05:14,206 --> 00:05:18,226 so it'll be good that he's there, you know, with my daughter. 75 00:05:18,366 --> 00:05:22,046 Mark - And then if something happens to him, just like accidentally, you know,